Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

03/21/2023 10:15 AM House ENERGY

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10:16:52 AM Start
10:18:25 AM Presentation(s): Alaska Energy Authority
11:33:30 AM Adjourn
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ENERGY                                                                              
                         March 21, 2023                                                                                         
                           10:16 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative George Rauscher, Chair                                                                                           
Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                        
Representative Stanley Wright                                                                                                   
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
Representative Calvin Schrage                                                                                                   
Representative Ashley Carrick                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josiah Patkotak                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S): ALASKA ENERGY AUTHORITY                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CURTIS THAYER, Executive Director                                                                                               
Alaska Energy Authority                                                                                                         
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave a PowerPoint presentation titled: "AEA                                                              
Overview Presentation" [hard copy included in committee packet].                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:16:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GEORGE  RAUSCHER called  the  House  Special Committee  on                                                             
Energy  meeting  to  order  at   [10:16  a.m.]    Representatives                                                               
Carrick, Wright,  Prax, McKay, and  Rauscher were present  at the                                                               
call to  order.   Representative Schrage  arrived as  the meeting                                                               
was in progress.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S): ALASKA ENERGY AUTHORITY                                                                                       
            PRESENTATION(S): ALASKA ENERGY AUTHORITY                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
10:18:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER  announced that the  only order of  business would                                                               
be the ALASKA ENERGY AUHTORITY presentation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:18:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CURTIS  THAYER,  Executive  Director,  Alaska  Energy  Authority,                                                               
offered  a PowerPoint  presentation  [hard copy  included in  the                                                               
committee packet].   He began on  slides 2 and 3  and stated that                                                               
the  Alaska Energy  Authority (AEA)  was created  in 1976  by the                                                               
Alaska  State Legislature  with  the mission  of reducing  energy                                                               
costs  in   Alaska.     He  said   AEA  administers   power  cost                                                               
equalization (PCE),  provides grants  and loans, works  on energy                                                               
planning,  and works  with the  Railbelt and  rural utilities  on                                                               
their energy generation facilities.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER moved  to slide 4 and showed a  map of active projects                                                               
overseen by  AEA, spanning across  all different forms  of energy                                                               
generation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:20:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 10:20 a.m. to 10:22 a.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:22:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked how many projects the map covers.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER answered  that it covers over  500 projects, including                                                               
renewable energy generation and PCE communities.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:24:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  moved to slides 5  through 7 and gave  an overview of                                                               
the Bradley Lake  hydroelectric project.  He  stated that Bradley                                                               
Lake provides approximately 10 percent  of the energy used by the                                                               
Railbelt utilities and is the  largest source of renewable energy                                                               
in the  state.  Energy  generated by  Bradley Lake costs  4 cents                                                               
per kilowatt-hour (kWh).   He showed a chart  with the percentage                                                               
of power received by each  of the Railbelt utilities from Bradley                                                               
Lake.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:25:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked how the percentages are determined.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER  answered  that  they   were  determined  during  the                                                               
original discussion  of the project  and reflect  the percentages                                                               
of the  bonds paid by each  utility.  In response  to a follow-up                                                               
question,  he  agreed  that  it  was  fair  to  characterize  the                                                               
percentages of power received as a purchase.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:26:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER continued to slides 8  through 10 and gave an overview                                                               
of  transmission  line  upgrades.    He said  that  AEA  and  the                                                               
Railbelt  utilities  have raised  $166  million  in financing  to                                                               
build  transmission  lines  from  Bradley  Lake  to  improve  its                                                               
efficiency and  the amount of power  it can deliver.   There will                                                               
be no additional costs to ratepayers  or the State of Alaska.  He                                                               
showed a map displaying transmission  lines and coverage areas of                                                               
the  Railbelt utilities.   He  said that  the Alaska  intertie is                                                               
owned by  AEA from Willow to  Healy, and it allows  Golden Valley                                                               
Electric  Association to  benefit from  lower cost  power, saving                                                               
its ratepayers an average of $37 million annually.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:30:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE  asked  how  it is  possible  to  upgrade                                                               
transmission  lines  without additional  costs  to  the state  or                                                               
ratepayers.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER answered  that additional payments made  for the bonds                                                               
were  eligible  to go  towards  the  Bradley  Lake project.    In                                                               
response to  a follow-up question,  he said that the  excess bond                                                               
funds were redirected to the Bradley Lake project.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:34:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER asked why additional  payments were necessary when                                                               
the bonds had already been paid.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER answered  that it  was  a provision  in the  original                                                               
conception of the project.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:35:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER continued to slides 11  and 12 and reiterated that AEA                                                               
administers  the  PCE  program.   He  said  193  communities,  91                                                               
utilities, and  82,000 Alaskans are  covered by the program.   He                                                               
said that residential  users are eligible to  receive PCE credits                                                               
up  to 750  kWh per  month.   Public facilities  can receive  PCE                                                               
credit  up to  70  kWh  per month  multiplied  by  the number  of                                                               
residents in the community.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:37:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WRIGHT  asked  how  much  money  is  in  the  PCE                                                               
endowment fund.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER answered approximately $1  billion.  He added that the                                                               
fund is overseen by the Department of Revenue.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:37:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE asked how the fund is structured.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER answered that a  court case the previous year resulted                                                               
in a  ruling stating that  the fund is  not sweepable.   He added                                                               
that  it was  mostly  an  accounting issue.    In  response to  a                                                               
follow-up  question, he  said  that depending  on  the amount  of                                                               
funds generated  by investment, a  certain amount of  those funds                                                               
can be allocated to certain  other appropriations.  He added that                                                               
such a scenario is uncommon.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:40:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAUSCHER commented  that a  full presentation  on the  PCE                                                               
would be held  in the future to give a  more in-depth overview of                                                               
the fund.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:42:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  continued with slide 13  and gave an overview  of PCE                                                               
eligibility.  He stated that  residential and community customers                                                               
are eligible, and  state and federal facilities  are not eligible                                                               
for PCE funds.   Additionally, communities with  rates lower than                                                               
the urban average are not eligible.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:42:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK asked whether  state or federal facilities                                                               
in rural communities benefitted from PCE in any capacity.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER answered that they do not benefit directly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:45:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 10:45 a.m. to 10:46 a.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:46:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   CARRICK  asked   whether  the   rural  utilities                                                               
benefitted  from PCE  regardless of  whether an  individual is  a                                                               
direct customer.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  answered that  Representative Carricks   statement is                                                               
correct.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:46:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  continued to slide  14 and  stated that AEA  has been                                                               
involved in system upgrades for  rural communities.  He said that                                                               
197 communities are eligible for the  program, and its goal is to                                                               
improve safety, efficiency, and  reliability of energy systems in                                                               
rural communities.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:48:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked  whether it is correct to  say that AEA                                                               
is 10 years behind on deferred maintenance.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER answered  that it  is.   In response  to a  follow-up                                                               
question,  he said  that AEA  tries to  prevent replacement  from                                                               
becoming necessary.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:49:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WRIGHT asked what AEA  does in order to extend the                                                               
lifespan of those systems.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER answered that AEA sends  out technicians to do as much                                                               
maintenance as possible.  He added  that a recent survey was done                                                               
for all equipment maintained by AEA.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:51:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX asked  whether  the state  capital match  is                                                               
separate from the PCE fund.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  answered that the PCE  fund has only been  used twice                                                               
for systems upgrades, due to an excess of funds generated.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:53:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER moved  to  slides  15 through  19  and  gave a  brief                                                               
overview of bulk  fuel upgrades and the power  project fund (PFF)                                                               
loan  program, which  provides loans  to  build renewable  energy                                                               
projects.   He  said that  AEA  has done  work on  400 bulk  fuel                                                               
upgrades in rural  areas of Alaska.  The  deferred maintenance of                                                               
those facilities  is $800 million.   He  said that AEA  has $27.2                                                               
million in outstanding  loans and $6.7 million  available for new                                                               
loans.  The current interest rate  is 4.86 percent.  He mentioned                                                               
the Hiilangaay and South Fork  hydroelectric projects as examples                                                               
of successful projects brought about  because of the availability                                                               
of those loans.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:56:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAUSCHER asked  how the  South Fork  hydroelectric project                                                               
provides power to other homes.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER answered  that the owners sell the  power generated to                                                               
Matanuska Electric Association (MEA).                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:56:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE  asked whether Hydaburg, Alaska,  is a PCE                                                               
eligible community.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER answered  that it  is.   In response  to a  follow-up                                                               
question, he  said that  King Cove, Alaska,  has not  applied for                                                               
PCE.    He   added  that  the  state  invested   money  into  the                                                               
community's hydroelectric project to  help it become energy self-                                                               
sufficient, which makes  up for the PCE funds  that the community                                                               
is not receiving.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:00:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER continued  to slides 20 through 24  and presented more                                                               
examples of  projects that  had benefited  from the  loan program                                                               
and the renewable energy fund (REF)  grant program.  He said that                                                               
the  Willow Solar  Farm  expansion project  provides  1.2 MWh  of                                                               
energy and offsets  2 million pounds of  carbon dioxide annually.                                                               
He  said AEA  has awarded  271 grants  totaling $300  million for                                                               
building  renewable energy  projects  and has  31 new  applicants                                                               
requesting a total of $33 million.   He mentioned the Banner Peak                                                               
Wind  Farm expansion,  Whitman  Lake  hydroelectric project,  and                                                               
Terror  Lake  hydroelectric  expansion  project  as  examples  of                                                               
projects receiving those grants.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:03:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER  continued  to  slides  25 through  28  and  gave  an                                                               
overview  of   some  federal  funding   made  available   by  the                                                               
Infrastructure  Investment  and  Jobs  Act.   He  said  that  $60                                                               
million  would be  made available  to Alaska  over five  years to                                                               
increase  grid   resiliency.    The   grants  from   the  federal                                                               
government would require a 15 percent  match from the state and a                                                               
33  percent small  utility  match.   He  stated  that  a plan  to                                                               
increase  electric  vehicle  infrastructure was  approved,  which                                                               
will   unlock  $19   million   for   electric  vehicle   charging                                                               
infrastructure; AEA  expects that Alaska may  receive $52 million                                                               
over the  course of the next  five years.  The  charging stations                                                               
will be  required to be built  no more than 50  miles apart, with                                                               
an exception in Glitter Gulch.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:06:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAUSCHER asked  what the  requirement  for an  alternative                                                               
fuel corridor (AFC) is.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER  answered  that  it   is  a  term  referring  to  the                                                               
possibility  of building  charging stations  in those  corridors.                                                               
In response to  a follow-up question, he stated that  AEA has not                                                               
received any requests other than  Anchorage, Alaska to Fairbanks,                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:07:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE  asked whether more federal  funding could                                                               
be received after building charging stations on the AFCs.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  answered that  more could be  built after  work along                                                               
the AFCs was completed.  In  response to a follow-up question, he                                                               
said that  Glitter Gulch  is not  operational during  the winter,                                                               
and the rest of the plan including the exception was approved.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE  asked  whether   an  estimated  time  of                                                               
completion is available.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER answered  that  it  is a  long  process  to work  out                                                               
logistics, and that AEA is still  waiting in some respects on the                                                               
federal government.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:10:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER continued to slides 29  and 30 and gave an overview of                                                               
opportunities  offered  by  the Infrastructure,  Investment,  and                                                               
Jobs Act.  He  stated that there is a total  of $145 million that                                                               
will come into the state  for energy infrastructure projects.  He                                                               
showed a  chart breaking  down the  amount of  money and  what it                                                               
would be  for and  added that  the only  state match  required is                                                               
$1.8 million for grid resiliency.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:13:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  moved to slide  31 and  gave an overview  of staffing                                                               
needs for AEA.  He said  that two project managers, a contracting                                                               
officer, a senior accountant, and  a grant coordinator are needed                                                               
for  administration  of the  projects  being  built with  federal                                                               
dollars.   An  additional PCE  technician is  also needed,  along                                                               
with some PCE salary adjustments.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:15:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE asked  how  AEA is  faring with  staffing                                                               
challenges.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER  answered that  AEA  has  only three  vacancies,  not                                                               
including the  new positions that will  be added.  He  added that                                                               
there are  times when AEA is  unable to compete with  much higher                                                               
salaries from  the private  sector.  In  response to  a follow-up                                                               
question,  he said  that AEA  does  have more  ability than  most                                                               
state agencies to increase salaries.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:21:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked if there is  a better way to keep track                                                               
of the different divisions within AEA.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER   answered  that  AEA   is  focused   on  resilience,                                                               
redundancy,  and  reliability.    He   said  that  there  is  not                                                               
redundancy on  the Railbelt, which  will potentially  cause price                                                               
issues in the future.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  asked if there  is a  way to figure  out how                                                               
the benefits of  investing in energy compare  to state investment                                                               
in other areas.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER answered  that he is unsure.  He  added that energy is                                                               
a statewide issue that needs investment and work.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:26:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE asked what the circuit rider program is.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER answered  that  it  is a  group  of technicians  that                                                               
travel around  rural Alaska to  provide training  and assistance.                                                               
In response to  a follow-up question, he stated  that the circuit                                                               
rider program mostly relies on federal funding.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE asked if there  is a need for more circuit                                                               
riders.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER answered  that  there  is still  a  backlog from  the                                                               
COVID-19  pandemic, and  further discussion  with his  team would                                                               
provide a better answer.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:33:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Special Committee on Energy meeting was adjourned at 11:33 a.m.                                                                 

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AEA Overview Presentation to House Energy Committee.pdf HENE 3/21/2023 10:15:00 AM
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